In the past I had found one useful link for proper pronunciation of designers etc. names, linked here. Still, not everything was there and the completed phrase of a fragrance name might create its own intricate liaisons etc. which would alter the individualised pronunciation of each word. Those of you who know French as foreign language, as I do, understand perfectly well what I mean.
One French-born, UK-dwelling professional translator going by the name of Bela on fragrance boards has decided to provide just what was asked for: an actual pronunciation reference with audible files instead of just phonetics for most French names, updating regularly and taking demands from readers too. Her site is called Frag Name of the Day and you can find the link here.
Now, you can't have any excuses on mispronouncing, since correct pronunciation is but a click of the mouse away! So you can save yourself the embarassement of the protagonist in Paul Verhoeven's movie Show Girls when she pronounces Versace as "Ver-sayce". (Wait, that's Italian! Well, we can't have it all, I guess). Regardless...kudos for massive work done.
phonetics: not exactly accurate... |
Further on: What does Bela think on fragrance names as someone who occupies herself with them as much, the French attitude towards perfumes vs. the British attitude, the rising Arabian-style perfumery with the names to correspond (will they eclipse the French?) and other assorted perfume questions? Here's a short interview she granted Perfume Shrine for your pleasure. Enjoy!
1. The website Frag Name of
the Day began as the reply to the demand of MUAers and perfume lovers on boards
questioning the correct pronunciation of French names. Is it very annoying
having companies naming their fragrances in French though they don't have any
business doing so or they're mixing up French and English (such as Miller
Harris)? What would you say to them if you could?
2. Do you think that simply
put "a French name sells" when it comes to perfumes? (i.e. goes with
the territory) Or could it backfire? How if so?
I
expect a French name sells otherwise companies wouldn’t carry on doing it, would
they? To a lot of people, France is synonymous
with style so anything that sounds French is bound to be refined and automatically
infused with elegance. Giving a product a French name in the hope that
consumers will be influenced by it is lazy, but if that marketing strategy was
going to backfire it would have done so a long time ago. The appetite for
French names doesn’t seem to have been sated yet.
3. Do you believe – as I do – that the French have oversold their ability to corner the market on producing
worthwhile perfumes?
They’ve
been at it for a very long time; do you really think they’re losing their grip?
Even if they don’t actually corner the market any longer, it doesn’t mean they aren’t
still a very important player. I’m afraid I lack the specialist knowledge
required to answer this question effectively.
4. Do you ever correct
Sales Associates when they mispronounce a fragrance name?
You
would expect me to, wouldn’t you? LOL! I never do. I pronounce names correctly
and, if it’s met with an uncomprehending look, I repeat them with an English
accent. The only time I correct SAs is when they try to make me believe some BS
about the products they’re selling.
5. As a professional
translator between the two languages (French & English) why do you think
that the British often "mangle" the French language and the French often "mangle" the English
language? Is it intentional? Is it historical reasons behind
it?
I don’t
think the Brits mangle the French language or the French the English language intentionally.
Why would they do that? Surely the primary purpose of learning a language is to
be able to communicate and mispronouncing things creates obstacles to this
communication. The British mouth is not made for the French language, and vice
versa: English requires a relaxed tongue and loose jaws; French is a ‘stiff’
language. Anglophones have problems with French genders; French grammar is very
difficult, etc. etc. They’re just so different. It could also have something to
do with the way they are taught (I was very lucky: my first English teacher was
a Brit. I learned to pronounce basic sounds accurately from the start. I never
went ‘ze ze ze’.) That said, I’m not sure I agree with you about those two
nationalities being the worst offenders. I’ve heard French being very badly
spoken by a lot of people, and here in London I hear English being massacred
daily by almost every foreigner I come across.
By
the way, since one can only translate accurately and with flair into one’s
mother tongue, I never take on work that involves translating into English.
Also, translating into a foreign language is not the done thing – from an
ethical point of view.
6. As a
French-born living permanently in the UK, which nation has a "better"
scent profile in your opinion? And what constitutes a "better" scent
profile anyway? Is it education, personality, a familiarity with the sensuous
world, what? [ed.note: I had presented my own views on this on this article called "Why the French (and other Europeans) grown up to love scents while Americans don't"]
You
must know I’m going to say France. It’s to do with lifestyle. The French know
how to enjoy life: good food, good wine, and other earthly pleasures. It
probably has something to do with being Catholic too. Britain is still a
Puritan country in many ways. The weather has a part to play too, I expect.
British perfumes are so wishy-washy and thin.
7. Is the Arabic trend the
latest thing because Europe has ceased to sound exotic to Americans (and maybe
the British too)? And will we need an Arabic Frag Name of the Day soon? :-)
Has
Europe ceased to sound exotic to Americans? I don’t think so. Yurp is still the
destination of choice for most Americans, and thanks to the Eurostar it’s on
Britain’s doorstep these days. Arabic names have always sounded exotic, haven’t
they? Could it be that they’re more noticeable these days because wealthy Arabs
are currently being courted by some companies? I really don’t know. By rights, we
should be seeing more Chinese names soon too. An Arabic Frag Name of the Day
would definitely be quite useful. Anyone want to emulate me? All you need is a
computer, a microphone, a copy of Audacity and a blog where you can post sound
files… oh, and plenty of time.
8. Which is you favorite perfume
right now and why?
Tubéreuse Criminelle
by Serge Lutens has been my signature scent for the past six years. It’s like
nothing else I’ve ever smelled; I can never get enough of the kerosene top note
and the mellow dry down. I’ve tried to be unfaithful; I’ve had very short
liaisons with other fragrances in those six years, but I always come back to
it. I doubt I will ever find anything to replace it.