tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post6999757596871920505..comments2024-03-29T05:13:21.130+00:00Comments on Perfume Shrine: Why Crusading Against Perfumery Restictions is an Exercise in OmphaloscepisPerfumeshrinehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-81239002285346326832009-04-14T11:45:00.000+01:002009-04-14T11:45:00.000+01:00I see what you mean about Mitsouko. Yes, we should...I see what you mean about Mitsouko. Yes, we should be able to have access to the fragrance as the perfumer intended.<br /><br />I wonder if I can get the original L d T on eBay... ?Audit Divahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08951918871940278111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-33099777567391816742009-04-12T13:21:00.000+01:002009-04-12T13:21:00.000+01:00AD,thanks for chimming in and by all means, passio...AD,<BR/><BR/>thanks for chimming in and by all means, passion is good! (glad you see it like that and I hope it does get is somewhere).<BR/><BR/>L'air du temps is indeed altered irrevocably. I last bought a bottle in 2002 and it was already vey much changed from my 80s juice (which had more of a carnation/eugenol and peach accord and a smidge of tuberose too). I vowed to never again buy the new..Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-44525576016622472262009-04-12T12:25:00.000+01:002009-04-12T12:25:00.000+01:00Gosh! I didn't know this was such a controversial ...Gosh! I didn't know this was such a controversial topic! Seems to be getting a bit heated around here, which is great - all that passion will surely get us somewhere.<BR/><BR/>I'm a novice in terms of perfume history and appreciation, so I won't add to the furore. I don't like Mitsuoko so feel no loss there. I do have a bottle of L'Air du Temps and read somewhere that it bears no resemblance to Audit Divahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08951918871940278111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-62119763654551148772009-04-09T10:12:00.000+01:002009-04-09T10:12:00.000+01:00Tania,if you devoted so much energy into a comment...Tania,<BR/><BR/>if you devoted so much energy into a comment, then by all means I must have touched chords and I thank you for your time in responding. <BR/><BR/>Concerning labels, yes: [quote]what the label should say is "if irritation occurs, discontinue use." [unquote] See, now THIS makes a lot more sense than what was mentioned before. To that I agree! But just labelling ingredients or Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-71763793684740994112009-04-09T05:23:00.000+01:002009-04-09T05:23:00.000+01:00Helg, you're really not making much sense here. It...Helg, you're really not making much sense here. It is true that allergic contact dermatitis often arises with exposure to something that has caused no problem in the past. This is true for all cosmetics and fragrances and has been since people first starting scenting and oiling themselves up centuries ago. So perhaps what the label should say is "if irritation occurs, discontinue use." I'm not Taniahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05744380759887516569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-4901211432845566962009-04-08T21:40:00.000+01:002009-04-08T21:40:00.000+01:00Alyssa,I couldn't have said it better. Thank you!!...Alyssa,<BR/><BR/>I couldn't have said it better. Thank you!! Very true and the core of the thing. <BR/><BR/>BTW, I have found out one more clue to the whole puzzle which is amazing enough to merit the next post.Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-163470843859559822009-04-08T21:16:00.000+01:002009-04-08T21:16:00.000+01:00It is difficult not to notice that most naturals a...It is difficult not to notice that most naturals are grown/harvested by small farmers in third world conditions in countries that are often plagued by war and other troubles while most synthetics are manufactured and sold by large, first world companies.<BR/><BR/>There is a complex story here. One that goes far beyond perfume.Alyssahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08651065872724626149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-53837810184082690632009-04-08T19:02:00.000+01:002009-04-08T19:02:00.000+01:00Moon Girl,thanks for stopping by and commenting. T...Moon Girl,<BR/><BR/>thanks for stopping by and commenting. <BR/><BR/>That's exactly what I have actually said on the article, if you read it closely (and in my comment yesterday to Tania, which is where I first phrased it in the "hair dye terms"). Sensitising can come at any moment. <BR/>But this is EXACTLY why a warning label won't solve the problem. Because it means that you can be sensitized Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-5993100101634618542009-04-08T18:56:00.000+01:002009-04-08T18:56:00.000+01:00Ines,thanks for chimming in!Well, if anything the ...Ines,<BR/><BR/>thanks for chimming in!<BR/><BR/>Well, if anything the University taught me is how to conduct a logical and civilized argument. All sides are welcome to be heard in level-headed tones and with solid arguments. We don't have to always agree on everything, but I think it's good to be able to have a platform on which to expose all the different views. I cherish my readers for that.<BRPerfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-58491488384821857852009-04-08T18:53:00.000+01:002009-04-08T18:53:00.000+01:00Thanks Kathryn for your comment which is quite enj...Thanks Kathryn for your comment which is quite enjoyable. I love Malle movies and I have fond memories of Atlantic City in particular (the lemons stood out more for me!). <BR/>I have some hope that the concept of the Osmotheque might be expanded and some form of rotation for history lovers such as us will be kept intact. Not for everyday maybe but to hold on to the best of the past.Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-83917344849002138512009-04-08T15:14:00.000+01:002009-04-08T15:14:00.000+01:00If you've ever colored your hair at home, you&...If you've ever colored your hair at home, you'd notice that contained in the package is an insert which says that one should do a 24-hour patch test every single time one colors. Even if the same exact product has been used for years. It says that "allergies can develop at any point".<BR/><BR/>Do people follow that recommendation? Sometimes yes, sometimes no. (I know I don'tAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-81662030732459977422009-04-08T09:25:00.000+01:002009-04-08T09:25:00.000+01:00This has definitely been one interesting debate an...This has definitely been one interesting debate and I'd like to chime in and say<BR/>1) it's wonderful to see that many different opinions here can be discussed in a rational manner (I really miss that in my life)<BR/>2)it frustrates me terribly to see how the opinion of "little" people as opposed to big companies is given no importance and I for one would prefer to be given a warning that a Ineshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12119611878721554991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-55557981265124837722009-04-07T23:42:00.000+01:002009-04-07T23:42:00.000+01:00Hi, Helg.Thank you for another thoughtful and info...Hi, Helg.<BR/><BR/>Thank you for another thoughtful and informative post.<BR/><BR/>I think your point about the common tendency to glorify a mythical golden age is a good one. It makes me think of the Burt Lancaster line in the Louis Malle movie "Atlantic City", reminiscing to a much younger man, "You should of seen the ocean then," he says. "The Atlantic Ocean was really somethin' in them daysKathrynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14109729908423909234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-2016211451438886132009-04-07T21:36:00.000+01:002009-04-07T21:36:00.000+01:00Sad really, isn't it... :-((I have mailed you, loo...Sad really, isn't it... :-(<BR/>(I have mailed you, look in your folder)<BR/><BR/>Hugs!Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-31463442561896187292009-04-07T21:33:00.000+01:002009-04-07T21:33:00.000+01:00E, I agree: it's all about the money.E, I agree: it's all about the money.Divinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14846908655432168778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-64596565311827773172009-04-07T21:16:00.000+01:002009-04-07T21:16:00.000+01:00GR,it's definitely certain that no one died from M...GR,<BR/><BR/>it's definitely certain that no one died from Mitsouko! LOL. <BR/>The mention of electronic radiation "pollution" is of course VERY important and actually I am much more concerned with that, as I live in a metropolis with lots of that kind of electo-pollution (and we have 3 cells per person! LOL) <BR/><BR/>You know, I think pink fruity florals ae just a phase. It's on the way out. I Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-69248080882300456802009-04-07T20:54:00.000+01:002009-04-07T20:54:00.000+01:00From my understanding, less than 1% of the populat...From my understanding, less than 1% of the population gets a skin rash from oakmoss, it's not like millions of people died from Mitsouko since 1919. <BR/>Reality check: studies estimate about two to three percent of the population may be “electrosensitive” and it's nothing compared to new studies announcing a massive wave of cancers within the next 20 to 30 years due to cell phone towers and wifiUellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00470633955030465849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-62053071440517994212009-04-07T20:46:00.000+01:002009-04-07T20:46:00.000+01:00D,hi, how are you? Thanks for chimming in and with...D,<BR/><BR/>hi, how are you? <BR/>Thanks for chimming in and with what is a good point. <BR/><BR/>I agree with you on several levels: 1)that eveything is a risk and if we banned everything we might as well not live at all,<BR/>2)that fragrance is too much regulated a field whereas food, wine, cigarettes even, are not as much. (they leave us the choice with their labelling).<BR/>3) that it is yet Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-77583642436649219972009-04-07T20:36:00.000+01:002009-04-07T20:36:00.000+01:00A,I know how hard you have fought about that and I...A,<BR/><BR/>I know how hard you have fought about that and I know Tony did too. We have to thank you for whatever results those brought. I know if some things are predecided, there is little that can be done. Yet, that little is nice when effective, isn't it. <BR/><BR/>If the little guys are left free to do as they please with the appropriate warnings in place, it's just as well.Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-37252570255162655252009-04-07T20:12:00.000+01:002009-04-07T20:12:00.000+01:00The issue that keeps not being addressed here as m...The issue that keeps not being addressed here as mentioned by other commenters in your previous post, is that sensitization can occur at any point, not just with perfume ingredients but countless things we consume (let alone put on our skin) daily. Sulfites KILL, but still they are regularly added to food, served in restaurants where noone can read any labels or be forwarned. They are there in Divinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14846908655432168778noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-15534230911390126782009-04-07T18:05:00.000+01:002009-04-07T18:05:00.000+01:00Well, I guess my navel-gazing got to be too much a...Well, I guess my navel-gazing got to be too much and that's why I decided to stop blogging and working on issues re: IFRA and the EU. No matter what I wrote - and I did have some successes, such as getting Tony Burfield/Cropwatch a foot in the door to have a meeting in Brussels because of the Guild joining up with him in an effort to boycott the 40th amendment (according to a thankful Tony) it anyasgardenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10223385840614041356noreply@blogger.com