tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post4455218320685627214..comments2024-03-27T09:09:56.489+00:00Comments on Perfume Shrine: Vetiver Series 4: the Secret of Gender in VetiverPerfumeshrinehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-74390403999352676532008-10-13T12:20:00.000+01:002008-10-13T12:20:00.000+01:00Therese,no need to apologise, it's perfectly under...Therese,<BR/><BR/>no need to apologise, it's perfectly understandable :-)<BR/><BR/>If you mean a fragrance named Private Club with vetiver, I do not know of one. If then again to refer of a private club of vetiver appreciators, we have one right here. But also on Basenotes. I believe the phrase was used in some old review on MUA about the fragrance Route de Vetiver by Maitre Parfumeur et Gantier:Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-87238257192934985922008-10-13T09:56:00.000+01:002008-10-13T09:56:00.000+01:00I was ever a vetiver lover.Did you know about a Ve...I was ever a vetiver lover.<BR/>Did you know about a Vetiver lover Private Club ?<BR/>If you know, thanks for sharing your info.<BR/>Cheers,<BR/><BR/>Thérèse<BR/><BR/>PS/ excuse me, my english is so badAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-34711756612435901242008-09-05T10:29:00.000+01:002008-09-05T10:29:00.000+01:00Zara,thank you for stopping by and commenting and ...Zara,<BR/><BR/>thank you for stopping by and commenting and welcome.<BR/>Thanks for the report on Lush: I think they should progress to a liquid form, too. The solid is a less "cooling" form.Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-79311453755732823832008-09-03T14:40:00.000+01:002008-09-03T14:40:00.000+01:00vetiver is both mysterious and comforting, that's ...vetiver is both mysterious and comforting, that's why i like it so much. yesterday i visited the local lush boutique just to smell silky underwear (picked in because of vetiver of course) and it smelled very nice actually, very, very comforting. they should make it into liquid!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-2328524657332303102008-09-01T09:20:00.000+01:002008-09-01T09:20:00.000+01:00Thank you dear N! I knew you'd appreciate it, know...Thank you dear N! <BR/><BR/>I knew you'd appreciate it, knowing your predeliction for several of those fragrances mentioned. Vetiver by Guerlain is really unisex, isn't it?<BR/><BR/>More will be sure to follow :-)Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-58159172080562828932008-09-01T08:07:00.000+01:002008-09-01T08:07:00.000+01:00I love that article, helg. I have found out that v...I love that article, helg. I have found out that vetiver is one of my favourite notes a few years ago and i especially love the vetiver-basenotes in Calèche and Rive Gauche. I also love Vetiver by Guerlain!<BR/>Many greetings, i am looking forward to MORE of the green delight! :-)<BR/>lillieAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-14221919034310721362008-08-31T07:42:00.000+01:002008-08-31T07:42:00.000+01:00That's very clear, thank you Emmanuella. :-)Poison...That's very clear, thank you Emmanuella. :-)<BR/><I>Poison</I> is all in the application, I believe: a little more and you (and those in the vicinity) are nauseous, a little less and it's daringly good.Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-1810969917370196702008-08-30T18:13:00.000+01:002008-08-30T18:13:00.000+01:00I guess I meant something like that... maybe I als...I guess I meant something like that... maybe I also see Poison more on a pulpous woman with curves and hips than a tall model type of girl, that said I love Poison, one little spritz in the cleavage won 't be "too much" and will be enough for a stellar sillage.Uellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00470633955030465849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-90215384644331133362008-08-30T11:53:00.000+01:002008-08-30T11:53:00.000+01:00Assuredly it's also about character, Emmanuella. N...Assuredly it's also about character, Emmanuella. No arguing with that! :-)<BR/><BR/>I gather you believe <I>Poison</I> to be less mysterious, more exhuberant and penetrative, more in-your-face therefore not a suitable "surprise" for the executive type? Just curious if I interpreted this the way you meant it.Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-89526310378627146642008-08-30T07:06:00.000+01:002008-08-30T07:06:00.000+01:00perfumeshrine, not necessarily, I think it 's also...perfumeshrine, not necessarily, I think it 's also a question or character. There 's girly girls and girly girls; the smart one and the dumb bleached blonde bimbo, the woman of character and mystery and the curvaceous pulpous ultra feminine woman, the intellectual sophisticated lady and the sexy casual...I wouldn 't fancy Poison on a certain type of woman like a Wall Street executive instead Uellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00470633955030465849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-21624009406469515232008-08-29T09:14:00.000+01:002008-08-29T09:14:00.000+01:00Simone,thank you! Guess what: I just did!! And wit...Simone,<BR/><BR/>thank you! Guess what: <A HREF="http://perfumeshrine.blogspot.com/2008/08/vetiver-dance-by-tauer-fragrance-review.html" REL="nofollow" TITLE="Vetiver Dance review">I just did</A>!! And with a draw for full bottles! :O <BR/><BR/>Hope you enjoy, I loved <I>Vetiver Dance</I>! :-)Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-84911925180309318082008-08-29T01:13:00.000+01:002008-08-29T01:13:00.000+01:00Please review the new fragrance Vetiver Dance - Ta...Please review the new fragrance Vetiver Dance - Tauer perfumes.<BR/>It is simply amazing.<BR/>best wishes SimoneAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-50112972689428690932008-08-28T16:03:00.000+01:002008-08-28T16:03:00.000+01:00Hi J!I hope to have provided an interesting line o...Hi J!<BR/><BR/>I hope to have provided an interesting line of discourse. It might serve as a springboard on a later in depth investigation ;-)<BR/><BR/>To answer your first question, I think it does! A pretty floral on a Laura Ashley type is cliche, while a woody fragrance is unexpected and thus interesting, kicking us out of our comfort zone and into noticing things more. <BR/>Same goes for Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-41604807378065626002008-08-28T15:46:00.000+01:002008-08-28T15:46:00.000+01:00Hello, E -- This goes along nicely with the discus...Hello, E -- This goes along nicely with the discussion we were having on the scent construction of gender on graindemusc the other day. I think you've hit upon an interesting thought, about masculine frags being far fetchier on girly girls than on more angular/tomboy ones. Is it that there is some pleasure to be found in the dissonance between outward visual presentation (girly-girl dress, Jarvishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08320628861633769796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-79229660182324843802008-08-28T06:59:00.000+01:002008-08-28T06:59:00.000+01:00Dear Emmanuella,thanks for your interesting commen...Dear Emmanuella,<BR/><BR/>thanks for your interesting comment.<BR/>I appreciate vetiver as a contributor to feminine fragrances as well and agree on the reasons you stated. Of course I understand how it might "read" as aftershave on a more straight-up composition (since it <I>has</I> been used in numerous shaving foams, soaps etc for men).<BR/>Perhaps <I>Vetiver Tonka</I> and <I>Vetiver Oriental<Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-36731000499415480902008-08-28T06:34:00.000+01:002008-08-28T06:34:00.000+01:00Dear M,Y is one of those chypres that have more or...Dear M,<BR/><BR/>Y is one of those chypres that have more or less saved their beautiful composition (with a slight arrangement of the oakmoss levels I bet): still great after all those years. No an easy feat!<BR/><BR/>I'm so glad you gave it a chance and hope you find another beautiful perfume to add to your lovely collection :-)Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-71171947533029755572008-08-28T01:19:00.000+01:002008-08-28T01:19:00.000+01:00Vetiver is a beautiful note in women 's perfume be...Vetiver is a beautiful note in women 's perfume because it adds character and intrigue but as a dominant note doesn 't work for me, it says "after-shave" sort of thing. That said I am extremely comfortable wearing hardcore leather, animalic and woody scents, it 's just that straight up vetiver doesn 't interest me. Same goes for oceanic scents like Cool Water, not possible for me, but it 's not aUellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00470633955030465849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-42936801783258820502008-08-28T00:55:00.000+01:002008-08-28T00:55:00.000+01:00The other day I was in Myers and sprayed Y by YSL ...The other day I was in Myers and sprayed Y by YSL . I was in a "mood" and I just grabbed the nearest tester with a "god, haven't smelt this in years , give it a go" attitude and it was wonderful. I was never a fan but I just might respray when "not in a mood" and see if its "buy worthy"!lady jickyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09013352537776588166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-12795041697869735942008-08-27T20:07:00.000+01:002008-08-27T20:07:00.000+01:00Adding:actually there is a way to test things blin...Adding:<BR/><BR/>actually there <I>is</I> a way to test things blind and I do it sometimes.<BR/><BR/>Get your samples (yet unsniffed) in an array, assign them numbers and write the numbers down in Post-its and hide the labels with the Post-its (there are some very small Post-its available; they're very handy for this exercise). <BR/>A couple of days later check the samples out one by one and Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-59394417662703688172008-08-27T20:03:00.000+01:002008-08-27T20:03:00.000+01:00LOL, J, I couldn't agree more!! The Nasomatto line...LOL, J, I couldn't agree more!! <BR/><BR/>The Nasomatto line is a perfect example actually. Apart from their -let's admit it- rather outre manifesto, the scents are not worse than most niche lines today; in fact I liked some a lot and <A HREF="http://perfumeshrine.blogspot.com/2007/05/new-fragrance-line-nasomatto-perfumes.html" REL="nofollow" TITLE="Nasomatto scents reviews">reviewed them with Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-5148358202894698922008-08-27T19:43:00.000+01:002008-08-27T19:43:00.000+01:00Yes, E! Isn't it interesting, though, that when li...Yes, E! Isn't it interesting, though, that when lists of those imaginative notes are not forthcoming, it can be a little anxiety provoking? I notice that very few people review the Nasomotto scents, and think this is related to the fact that they refuse to issue list of notes. On the rare occasions that bloggers talk about them, there's always a moment of, "I'm going to go out on a limb, and say Jarvishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08320628861633769796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-79314585213120209682008-08-27T19:21:00.000+01:002008-08-27T19:21:00.000+01:00Of course I would. In fact I heard the opinion of ...Of course I would. In fact I heard the opinion of a Swedish perfume lover who put this into words: "I like to be able to pinpoint exactly where the composition is going, helps me when sampling" (not verbatim, but that's the gist).<BR/><BR/>I believe the decoding is most interesting when there is no set of notes or any evocation through the name: eaxmples ~how wrong would we be to think that Mona Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-21499874586704188182008-08-27T18:26:00.000+01:002008-08-27T18:26:00.000+01:00Hi, E. I agree with you, absolutely, about the cur...Hi, E. I agree with you, absolutely, about the current tendency towards "Material this" and "Material that" names, along with niche perfumery. I have thought that this is in part because niche audiences value legibility of notes in their perfumes (they [we] want to be able to identify what we are smelling; related to what we were talking about on graindemusc about the "pleasures of decoding"). Jarvishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08320628861633769796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-60805034099619679642008-08-27T15:17:00.000+01:002008-08-27T15:17:00.000+01:00Thanks J for your kind words.Well, let's just say ...Thanks J for your kind words.<BR/>Well, let's just say that aphorisms are made to be proven innacurate ;-)<BR/><BR/>It's not always been the case that fragrances were named Vetiver this and Vetiver that (or Material this and Material that anyway like the plethora of Ambers and Cuirs). I think this came with the advent of niche which focused on the juice instead of the evocative, poetic or sexy Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-25082506545273871332008-08-27T13:59:00.000+01:002008-08-27T13:59:00.000+01:00Hi, E -- what a whirlwind survey of vetiver in wom...Hi, E -- what a whirlwind survey of vetiver in women's fragrance that was. It belies the idea that vetiver is always so dominant in a fragrance that most fragrances that include are named after it. Interesting to see the complex qualities it can tribute to an overall composition when blended skillfully and carefully.Jarvishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08320628861633769796noreply@blogger.com