tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post8889986606779670912..comments2024-03-27T09:09:56.489+00:00Comments on Perfume Shrine: Bullshitting the Bullshitter? Chanel Damage Control Over Lidl Fragrance Smell-Alike Sounds SkewedPerfumeshrinehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comBlogger42125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-82928349993359974362016-06-08T13:59:22.481+01:002016-06-08T13:59:22.481+01:00True. Myth and Mystery sells.True. Myth and Mystery sells.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-56796714768569856212016-06-07T10:06:20.330+01:002016-06-07T10:06:20.330+01:00Absolutely true and you do have a point. I just gu...Absolutely true and you do have a point. I just guess we all wanted more out of Chanel. They have built a myth. Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-879501137877702592016-06-03T20:46:08.857+01:002016-06-03T20:46:08.857+01:00Re-reading this I think that there is something a ...Re-reading this I think that there is something a little unfair about this idea of budget vs original. There would be no knock offs without the originals first. The perfumers that created Mademoiselle created a best seller due to their training, expertise and artistic ability. Not to mention the expense involved paying them, their assistants, support staff, test marketing etc. That money has to Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-63586346168090372202016-03-29T19:48:37.169+01:002016-03-29T19:48:37.169+01:00I have to agree. I have to agree. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17533953276046601712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-57003343335573716152016-03-28T17:34:33.750+01:002016-03-28T17:34:33.750+01:00Sometimes it's a matter of allowing a bigger b...Sometimes it's a matter of allowing a bigger budget for ingredients and innovation (captive molecules, more daring concepts that need more working out of the formula etc) and sometimes it's just positioning. I'd talk more if I could, naming names, but surely can't. Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-67504031909891398992016-03-24T18:53:45.158+00:002016-03-24T18:53:45.158+00:00It's true that with designer scents one pays f...It's true that with designer scents one pays for the advertising, but then why are niche perfumes even more expensive? LetThemEatCakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17339492139237154732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-67616743215838305652014-12-08T10:27:37.549+00:002014-12-08T10:27:37.549+00:00Anon,
you're most welcome!
As the French say...Anon,<br /><br />you're most welcome!<br /><br />As the French say, voilà!Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-59571609326098468732014-12-06T15:50:30.451+00:002014-12-06T15:50:30.451+00:00Very enlightening article which I happened to read...Very enlightening article which I happened to read just hours before going lidl shopping. Well, guess what? The moment I se foot in the store and before buying my groceries I tested the Madame glamour imitation of coco mademoiselle. That was 5 hours ago. It still smells wonderfully on my wrist and on the back of my hand despite having washed my hands twice since....to make matters better, MadameAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-39048284707026187662014-12-05T07:55:59.198+00:002014-12-05T07:55:59.198+00:00Hey Vanessa,
so good to see you!
Oh, I simply ...Hey Vanessa, <br /><br />so good to see you! <br /><br />Oh, I simply HAD to include your blog: you're the pioneer in the Lidl fragrances comparisons. Yours is the definitive one I always thought, it needed to be there. <br /><br />Glad you found the demolition job informative. I think there is a lot of brandishing of the "great butter we're using" when the bulk is margarine Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-70219665734857480202014-12-04T13:05:09.055+00:002014-12-04T13:05:09.055+00:00Hi Elena,
Finally caught up with your thought-pro...Hi Elena,<br /><br />Finally caught up with your thought-provoking piece, and thanks for the link to my blog. ;)<br /><br />The misinformation you quote from RW about the relative merits of natural and synthetic ingredients is astonishing, and I learnt a lot in your blow-by-blow demolition job.<br /><br />For my part, I have just tested the Lidl copy of Chanel No 5, Suddenly Woman 1, which I Vanessahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11847145282522572183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-10464223770112643162014-12-02T11:12:45.848+00:002014-12-02T11:12:45.848+00:00Minette,
thanks honey, hope you have a great hol...Minette, <br /><br />thanks honey, hope you have a great holiday season!<br /><br />It's sorta jaw dropping how they manage to commission some things and make them so good and manage to keep the prices SO low. right? <br /><br />As consolation, I'll offer you we don't get TJ Maxx here. :-PPerfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-41841799203428158792014-12-02T11:11:06.276+00:002014-12-02T11:11:06.276+00:00Nathan,
glad you enjoyed!
As you say, the quali...Nathan,<br /><br />glad you enjoyed! <br /><br />As you say, the quality has gone down so dramatically :-( (things from the 80s smell so darn good and so dense and vibrant and rich and yes, innovative that they could pass for niche nowadays).<br /><br />And the issue you bring of re-branding a previously mainstream fragrance, after first discontinuing it, at an expotentially elevated price Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-39836686597591796452014-12-02T11:07:02.918+00:002014-12-02T11:07:02.918+00:00Gina,
thanks honey!
You know, I find them very s...Gina, <br />thanks honey!<br /><br />You know, I find them very similar myself, almost identical. The only small thing is that the Lidl EDP smells more like the Chanel EDT (rather than the denser EDP) and lasts accordingly to that one (4 hours on average on my skin). So there is a difference, but nothing as dramatic as the niche owner suggests in the article. Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-59021383830003435472014-12-02T11:05:11.551+00:002014-12-02T11:05:11.551+00:00Alex,
glad I did, then!
Like I said above to ano...Alex,<br /><br />glad I did, then!<br /><br />Like I said above to another commentator, niche and luxury have a difficult balancing act on how to do a sales pitch. They need to justify their high prices. And they go for the uneducated "it's made of high quality ingredients" line because it's often the only one the customer is trained to follow. This also has to do with the Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-14803438991974906352014-12-02T11:02:34.442+00:002014-12-02T11:02:34.442+00:00Angel painter,
thank you!
True what you say of c...Angel painter,<br /><br />thank you!<br /><br />True what you say of course. But it doesn't really matter in the end (to the buyer, I mean, not the artist) whether your pigments come from Talens or RGH Artists. It just doesn't end up in the sales pitch, does it?Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-27267732834260856822014-12-02T10:59:00.672+00:002014-12-02T10:59:00.672+00:00Anon,
I don't know whether you're a regu...Anon, <br /><br />I don't know whether you're a regular reader or not, but most people reading here and on other blogs and fora know that the same companies who manufacture your designer (or niche) perfume also manufacture the commissioned perfumes by supermarkets etc. They even recycle the formulae from time to time (with minimal changes so as to be within the letter of the law).<br />Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-14428248790167838592014-12-02T10:56:08.321+00:002014-12-02T10:56:08.321+00:00Merlin,
they do make some things very well, it...Merlin,<br /><br />they do make some things very well, it's suprirising really because it highlights just how overpriced the regular items are. The lipsticks are a good example. For 2€ you get the quality of an above average lipstick with a plastic case that actually makes a clicking noise when closing. (can't beat that!) Why pay 12 for L'Oreal? If you ask why pay for TF or Chanel'Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-10344812413254699342014-12-02T10:52:04.950+00:002014-12-02T10:52:04.950+00:00Anon,
constructive criticism, so thank you very m...Anon,<br /><br />constructive criticism, so thank you very much for this!<br />I got carried away I suppose this time. Will refrain myself in the future with a gentle consideration for my readers' eyes. Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-18433282615078977072014-12-02T10:51:12.975+00:002014-12-02T10:51:12.975+00:00KK,
you're very kind. :-) Thanks!
Well, I ha...KK,<br /><br />you're very kind. :-) Thanks!<br /><br />Well, I have a friend who says the same thing re: CMlle's appeal/non appeal. <br /><br />And I do agree 100% on the whole experience you describe when wearing perfume. Beautifully said!Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-62459545870849145002014-12-02T10:49:55.941+00:002014-12-02T10:49:55.941+00:00LB,
yes, the focus isn't what this says about...LB,<br /><br />yes, the focus isn't what this says about Lidl but what it says about Chanel. If you can't pick up the differences in a blind test, then this is rather telling for the overall quality of the perfumes of contemporary years, isn't it? <br /><br />Niche and luxury want to play it both ways sometimes: mention the synths sporadically and yet not have the customers complain Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-72940627296562069452014-12-02T10:47:29.155+00:002014-12-02T10:47:29.155+00:00M,
sharp eye!! :-) (Not that I expected anything ...M,<br /><br />sharp eye!! :-) (Not that I expected anything less). <br /><br />My title is meant to grab and drive the focus into the companies. Indeed Chanel doesn't go officially on record saying anything, because what could they say, really? <br /><br />Their asset is that they came up with the composition first and their creativity is what is being sold (and copied). But that doesn't Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-47670571460454162242014-12-02T10:43:58.645+00:002014-12-02T10:43:58.645+00:00Anon,
thank you for saying so, you're very ki...Anon,<br /><br />thank you for saying so, you're very kind. <br /><br />The difference in formulation sometimes has to do with the legibility of the fragrance due to the diffusion being aided by the added alcohol (so one adjusts the ratio or even the whole formula accordingly, for instance an EDT might contain added top notes for grabbing attention, since it's more sparkly) But also Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-30019694382874864062014-12-02T10:41:37.445+00:002014-12-02T10:41:37.445+00:00MH,
indeed. But just how many of those buying nic...MH,<br /><br />indeed. But just how many of those buying niche or exclusive luxury items does know these things in the end? If we take what Tauer says to heart (i.e. that perfumistas comprise only about 1/4 and lower than his share, and we're talking about a very small in terms of recognition line), then it gains new perspective, right? <br /><br />Education is the difficult, high road. The Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-79347454518524475302014-12-02T10:39:17.192+00:002014-12-02T10:39:17.192+00:00ION,
thank you!
I think the whole balancing act...ION,<br /><br />thank you! <br /><br />I think the whole balancing act of touting the quality ingredients without mentioning (or mentioning minimally) the synthetics is very risky to play. Few play it successfully and only frank players get respect in the end (Malle for all his selling the brand to Lauder has always been frank on these matters, so one respects the line and acknowledges that they&Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-29006613465299867522014-12-02T10:33:29.086+00:002014-12-02T10:33:29.086+00:00M,
I also think that (although don't really c...M,<br /><br />I also think that (although don't really care for it, if I love the scent), the packaging is part of the experience of fragrance. It plays a significant role in the whole thing. Even if we perfumistas snub it from time to time. <br /><br />Happy December!Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.com