tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post8481357545928123069..comments2024-03-27T09:09:56.489+00:00Comments on Perfume Shrine: Indole & Jasmine: Indolic vs. Non-Indolic or Dirty vs.CleanPerfumeshrinehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-14071288090632395092020-07-17T14:22:55.848+01:002020-07-17T14:22:55.848+01:00Hi , I hope i can get answers of the following que...Hi , I hope i can get answers of the following questions even though this has been posted 10 years ago :) <br /><br />- Does jasmine grandi. has more indole levels (at night or in the early morning)?<br />- is the indole decompose (decrease) when the flowers are picked in the morning or at night? <br />- how to decrease indole level naturally in the jasmine flower? Does the period from picking Omarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04125216718001804477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-1127536883246240252020-03-31T20:39:35.751+01:002020-03-31T20:39:35.751+01:00A small correction. ‘Oleum’ in this context is not...A small correction. ‘Oleum’ in this context is not ‘oil’, but concentrated fuming sulfuric acid (a solution of sulfur trioxide in sulfuric acid).Rigushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08058317966591318326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-49043824231768448352013-01-09T22:26:36.117+00:002013-01-09T22:26:36.117+00:00I feel the same as Mals86. I'm glad I'm no...I feel the same as Mals86. I'm glad I'm not the only one. I had always thought that jasmine smelled like urine to me, but perhaps a pair of dirty panties is more accurate.Blaurichehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14156018370991860571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-47884521061450785222012-05-10T07:18:54.439+01:002012-05-10T07:18:54.439+01:00Darryl,
I think "fecal" and poopy"...Darryl,<br /><br />I think "fecal" and poopy" are all in the mind of people with an aversion to natural smells in the first place. <br />To illustrate: Bal a Versailles is supposed to be "dirty" in a "fecal" and "naughty" way (so much civet in some concentrations of it). But would you flat out say "something smells like poop here" while Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-68119520744527102652012-05-09T20:09:07.215+01:002012-05-09T20:09:07.215+01:00I've never understood the "indolic=poopy&...I've never understood the "indolic=poopy" trope so bandied about by perfumistas. I, too, get hints of mothballs and decay from heavy indoles rather than anything fecal, and then only as a facet of the scent, not the whole story. (If Joy really smelled like a soiled diaper, people wouldn't wear it, yes?) <br /><br />Indole is crucial to good jasmine scents to make them lush, Darrylhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13786494720632937284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-67064457191643255972011-12-07T15:53:07.012+00:002011-12-07T15:53:07.012+00:00Brian,
thanks for commenting!
It's more moth...Brian,<br /><br />thanks for commenting!<br /><br />It's more moth-ballish funky than funky in a unwashed body parts funky sense ;D<br />I too find jasmine absolute rich, sensuous and full and very pleasurable, even in isolation. <br />Tuberose has even more of that mothball funkiness to me, but that's not a deterent. To me it's combination of camphor, sweet floral and some rubber Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-20131784338208511232011-12-07T05:33:36.823+00:002011-12-07T05:33:36.823+00:00I must be anosmic to indole, because no jasmine ab...I must be anosmic to indole, because no jasmine absolute I have ever smelled has been in any way 'funky' to me, rich, sensuous, full,yes, but funky, no. And certainly not poopy. I do detect something funky in orange blossom absolute though, a sort of musty, decaying vegetation kind of smell. To me that note is even more pronounced in the orange blossom water absolute. I've never Brian Sheanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-82601790684273096732010-05-20T23:04:09.677+01:002010-05-20T23:04:09.677+01:00QC,
I admit I haven't tried that one. It'...QC,<br /><br />I admit I haven't tried that one. It's interesting that it's extrait, in older days that was possible. Now they carry Night Scented Jasmine, which hasn't really wowed me personally. <br />Is the old really good?Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-72384851173284661232010-05-20T23:02:34.153+01:002010-05-20T23:02:34.153+01:00A,
very interesting comment!
Organza always seem...A,<br /><br />very interesting comment!<br /><br />Organza always seemed to me like a synthetic gardenia with sweet bits of vanilla on steroids. It's just taking up the stage. Yet it has some charm if you can stomach such a presence, bigger than life. I can see how it can't be a jasmine lover's dream though. Ysatis certainly played up the jasmine more than Organza, although it's Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-60655832790866357582010-05-20T22:57:18.756+01:002010-05-20T22:57:18.756+01:00Stelma,
forgot to mention that Schocking does hav...Stelma,<br /><br />forgot to mention that Schocking does have a ladyparts aura about it, due to multiple things. I think it also has a sweaty effect which contributes to the overall concept.Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-22250005771443544632010-05-20T22:56:12.844+01:002010-05-20T22:56:12.844+01:00Stelma,
how kind of you to say so!
Chypres manage...Stelma,<br /><br />how kind of you to say so!<br />Chypres manage to exude a different vibe, musty yes, but in a different way. More dry and powdery, while indole is somehow...wetter, although nothing at all like aqueous/dewy or marine scents. It's hard to explain. It's not a powdery smell and chypres so often have the effect of mossy face powder (not talc).Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-15324386545924570422010-05-20T22:51:45.455+01:002010-05-20T22:51:45.455+01:00Jared,
thanks, looks like I have sent you on a hu...Jared,<br /><br />thanks, looks like I have sent you on a hunt which is excellent. Not that you don't already have a seemingly fine collection!<br />I love, love, love the Bal a Versailles. It's even dirtier in the old Eau de Cologne version which I simply adore. <br />Do try to scoop up some jasmine (cute pun, so borrowing it!). It's really great.Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-63236066825240840442010-05-20T22:49:51.235+01:002010-05-20T22:49:51.235+01:00March,
hi there!
Thanks honey! Jasmin Full is o...March,<br /><br />hi there! <br /><br />Thanks honey! Jasmin Full is one of the few Montales I deem favorites and that's saying a lot (I think you agree).<br /><br />Me thinks the gardenia has elements of mouldy cheese and tuberose is definitely rubbery. These elements can be more pronounced than the sweet, sweet decay, which is probably what's throwing us off in regards to "dirty&Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-86564189201358734722010-05-20T16:26:19.259+01:002010-05-20T16:26:19.259+01:00Here I am, late to the party... I found a vintage ...Here I am, late to the party... I found a vintage perfume simply called "Jasmine" by Floris. Yes, it is extrait--I didn't know they made anything in concentrations other than eau de toilette. It is still sealed and I am a little hesitant to open it but if someone dares me, I will...queen_cupcakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18364405341560661291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-30116412457491205052010-05-20T12:08:52.107+01:002010-05-20T12:08:52.107+01:00I love idolic jasmine, the only kind of jasmin in ...I love idolic jasmine, the only kind of jasmin in perfumes that I like. For instance one like in Organza I can`t stand. The Different Company - Jasmin de Nuit is great, especially for the first half an hour. I also think I can smell it in old formula Ysatis. I have to try Montale. Is it similar to TDC Jasmin, just jasmin not whole fragrance?Alexandranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-14815663145385130662010-05-19T16:07:31.547+01:002010-05-19T16:07:31.547+01:00Great article; I'm still learning so need to g...Great article; I'm still learning so need to go smell some of the perfumes you mention. I am very familiar with Chypre scents but not so much indoles. I have some vintage Joy to start with. Does vintage Shocking by Schiaparelli have indoles in it? I definitely get a "ladies panties" scent after wearing it a long while.stelmadesignshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07909207146304448538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-19186982069503424662010-05-19T12:39:45.830+01:002010-05-19T12:39:45.830+01:00Fascinating article! This makes me want to scoop u...Fascinating article! This makes me want to scoop up some jasmine scents (pun intended) and see what all of this indole chatter is about. Although I may already have some...I have a bottle of Bal a Versailles, which I adore, as well as a tiny bit of Joy in extrait left. I also love that! It makes me wonder, too, what's in Amouage's Gold for men, since when smelling that, my mind went rightJaredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09424300101969094900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-11238269170080559872010-05-19T12:01:43.021+01:002010-05-19T12:01:43.021+01:00Very interesting post! I love love love Jasmin F...Very interesting post! I love love love Jasmin Full, the only Montale I own, precisely for those days when I want something really dirty. (And I agree -- tuberose's rubber and gardenia's ... whatever seem to divert the attention from the dirty bits.)<br /><br />I tend to bring out the naughty in neroli/orange blossom, I assume it's some chemical component they've added.Marchhttp://www.perfumeposse.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-75652208898195320312010-05-19T10:48:16.450+01:002010-05-19T10:48:16.450+01:00Mimi Gardenia (cute name!!),
thanks for chiming i...Mimi Gardenia (cute name!!),<br /><br />thanks for chiming in! <br />I personally think Jasmine White Moss is not really about the jasmine. It's like a modernised Cristalle or Diorella (more chyprish than floral) So I definitely see where you're coming from. <br />Ohh, A la Nuit is gorgeous if one loves indolic jasmine. And Jasmal is very pretty as well.Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-46427967460367237542010-05-19T10:45:50.064+01:002010-05-19T10:45:50.064+01:00M,
how fascinating, love the breakdown you did on...M,<br /><br />how fascinating, love the breakdown you did on specific flowers!<br /><br />Well, I think jasmine is the most blatantly indolic per se. Tuberose is "dirty" but also has other elements in it (rubberiness or a certain "meaty" quality sometimes) which might defray from the intimate aura that jasmine has. Ylang Ylang is sweeter to my nose, but also creamier. <br />Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-15618034372309984872010-05-19T10:39:52.774+01:002010-05-19T10:39:52.774+01:00D,
I wish you all the best with the voting result...D,<br /><br />I wish you all the best with the voting results. <br />It's very interesting what you say and it has often made me wonder too because I don't perceive "dirty" smells (in perfume) as several others. Is it a matter of skin or perception? That is the question. <br />There is thankfully a cornucopia of scents with indolic smell on the market, so you're set. :-)<brPerfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-14434122573877717962010-05-19T06:24:04.208+01:002010-05-19T06:24:04.208+01:00I *think* I adore indoles ... I have tried over an...I *think* I adore indoles ... I have tried over and over to love Jasmine White Moss by Estee Lauder but I can't. Joy and I are best friends ! <br />I do love Jasmal by Creed and A La Nuit .Mimi Gardenia formerly Mystic Knotnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-22508318631310518142010-05-18T20:40:46.476+01:002010-05-18T20:40:46.476+01:00I have trouble with indolic jasmine. There, I sai...I have trouble with indolic jasmine. There, I said it. Joy smells like dirty panties on me - not poopy, but like sweaty, um, ladyparts, if you get what I mean. (I'm not sure it's the civet; I love Ubar and Climat and Bal a Versailles and Parfum Sacre, and I notice the civet in those but it never bothers me. Rather, it reminds me somewhat of the lovely dusty smell of cat fur.) Sarrasins Mals86https://www.blogger.com/profile/09757305840611623427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-74089689273801113482010-05-18T19:17:24.241+01:002010-05-18T19:17:24.241+01:00A very interesting "materials" post! Sin...A very interesting "materials" post! Since we're having elections today here in the U. S., I'll vote with the indolic versions of jasmine and neroli. My skin has a tendency to eat indoles and skank, so florals with them just end up smelling fuller and less sweet.Rappleyeahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05368969125735482669noreply@blogger.com