tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post818184039413121223..comments2024-03-27T09:09:56.489+00:00Comments on Perfume Shrine: Hermes Voyage d'Hermes: fragrance reviewPerfumeshrinehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-36302826222179319412014-01-15T08:44:00.739+00:002014-01-15T08:44:00.739+00:00Anon,
I may have been dismissive of the importanc...Anon,<br /><br />I may have been dismissive of the importance you placed on the musk anosmia creating this phenomenon for you. I apologize. <br /><br />To revert to the question at hand: Musk anosmia is widespread (and I believe this is what the statistic quoted refers to en masse: but it pertains to <i>some</i> form of musk, certainly not all, which is why perfumers use many, as you yourself Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-15023866733872076972014-01-13T17:26:35.755+00:002014-01-13T17:26:35.755+00:00I think you have misunderstood. If you re-read, I ...I think you have misunderstood. If you re-read, I was surprised when you said Voyage d'Hermes was "quite musky" and agreed that a musk anosmia is the likely explanation and I never stopped believing that musk anosmia is the likely explanation. <br /><br />You think I am "coming back" to your first suggestion of musk anosmia and in a "cycle pattern," but that is aAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-27662849056327235132014-01-13T13:06:59.271+00:002014-01-13T13:06:59.271+00:00Anon,
thanks for the follow up.
1.I can't b...Anon,<br /><br />thanks for the follow up. <br /><br />1.I can't be 100% sure on whether it contains a specific material or not unless I see the actual formula. I do smell musks, so it's possible but not conclusive. <br /><br />2.Theories have to be tested on many more than 3 people to gain scientific credence. It might be that the 2 people who commented are vocabulary-challenged and can&Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-80861406931154714312014-01-11T16:42:33.993+00:002014-01-11T16:42:33.993+00:00The sample came from a Sephora salesperson who spr...<br />The sample came from a Sephora salesperson who sprayed from the tester bottle into a sample vial and I sprayed it on me next day, so it did not have time to go bad.<br /><br />Does Voyage have the musk Ambrettolide in it? Because I can test for anosmia to Ambrettolide by smelling another scent with Ambrettolide in it. I think about 50% of the population are anosmic to macrocyclic musks likeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-6362061205970556082014-01-11T11:10:57.237+00:002014-01-11T11:10:57.237+00:00Anon,
hmmm…I am starting to believe that you got ...Anon,<br /><br />hmmm…I am starting to believe that you got a bad sample or turned tester or something. <br />Voyage isn't supposed to smell like that. And yes, it looks like you're not objecting to the Iso E either. But neither are musks (of any kind) sharp and "insecticide-smelling". I am wracking my brain to think what objectionable thing would be in Voyage that would remind Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-22812175351428402652014-01-10T18:33:57.256+00:002014-01-10T18:33:57.256+00:00The smell is a horrible overwhelming insecticide s...The smell is a horrible overwhelming insecticide smell. I mean exactly like OFF. Looking at their website the ingredients of OFF are DEET, propellants and some fragrance, so probably the DEET smell is the main thing.<br /><br />Camphorous smells like geranium and eucalyptus are some things that I love and try to look for in a scent. <br /><br />I think I like Iso E Super. I wear Eternity by Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-79366893213106713072014-01-10T13:31:47.639+00:002014-01-10T13:31:47.639+00:00Anon,
there you go: cultural chasm at play. We do...Anon,<br /><br />there you go: cultural chasm at play. We don't have OFF here. The US insect repellant I recall is from my days on the Everglades and that was industrial strength, I believe!! (LOL)<br />Most bug sprays use citronella, eucalyptus and other camphorous smells (bugs hate those!) , geranium or cedar. <br /><br />Of those I believe it is the cedar you're perceiving in Voyage (Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-16929712491305833502014-01-09T23:16:31.307+00:002014-01-09T23:16:31.307+00:00Bug repellant smell as in the product named "...Bug repellant smell as in the product named "Off" just as sharp or sharper. <br /><br />Voyage is supposed to smell quite musky? Wow, I don't remember it having any musk at all. Definitely could be anosmia to one of the musks. I suspect I am anosmic to Habanolide and I wonder if I am anosmic to more than one of the musk chemicals in use. By that I mean that perfumers know of musk Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-60243371493961678082014-01-09T14:30:16.793+00:002014-01-09T14:30:16.793+00:00Anon,
I think it should be some musk anosmia. Mos...Anon,<br /><br />I think it should be some musk anosmia. Most people can't discern some type of musk or other. This is quite musky, so perhaps you're blocking out some of the ingredients and retaining the other part? Could be. <br />I can't be 100% sure though. It also depends on your definition of "bug spray smell". Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-89074452473009964542014-01-09T14:30:15.952+00:002014-01-09T14:30:15.952+00:00Anon,
I think it should be some musk anosmia. Mos...Anon,<br /><br />I think it should be some musk anosmia. Most people can't discern some type of musk or other. This is quite musky, so perhaps you're blocking out some of the ingredients and retaining the other part? Could be. <br />I can't be 100% sure though. It also depends on your definition of "bug spray smell". Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-12923044982091456162014-01-08T21:13:21.851+00:002014-01-08T21:13:21.851+00:00Soon after spraying Voyage d'Hermes someone wa...Soon after spraying Voyage d'Hermes someone walked into the room and exclaimed "Phew! Someone has put on too much bug spray!" That comment made me realize that it smelled exactly like insect repellent to me too. If anosmia is causing it to smell like bug spray to us, which components might we be anosmic to?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-40193841248096685872010-04-24T13:49:45.030+01:002010-04-24T13:49:45.030+01:00Ah! Interesting project. I shall...and appreciat...Ah! Interesting project. I shall...and appreciate the opportunity to knock on Un Jardin sur le Nil's door. For some reason, I've been avoiding it. Not actively, but certainly not looking, either.<br /><br />And Phew! on your clarification; makes the music analogy even better. I was going to say, but those combos are kind of reedy ultimately (especially the opening, lol), and lack a ScentScelfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12264276265890227820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-64238186161788760192010-04-24T00:07:51.097+01:002010-04-24T00:07:51.097+01:00S,
thanks for saying so, sometimes I fear the mus...S,<br /><br />thanks for saying so, sometimes I fear the musical equivalences bore the hell out of readers! ;)<br /><br />Hmm, I don't think I'm the fondest. I certainly recognise that it's technically masterful. But I already own the quotes. So would I buy a bottle? It depends. I'm usually not swayed by packaging although I admit this one is great. <br /><br />Rose Ikebana is Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-37544557691422465602010-04-24T00:05:02.531+01:002010-04-24T00:05:02.531+01:00K,
thank you darling! How are things? I'm so ...K,<br /><br />thank you darling! How are things? I'm so busy I can't really devote time in reading these days. :(<br /><br />I don't know if I prefer Terre or this. Now there's a question: What if someone sprayed Terre over Poivre and let it settle? Would a sparser Voyage emerge?Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-43422415198557705522010-04-24T00:03:42.552+01:002010-04-24T00:03:42.552+01:00Ines,
TOTALLY not the white musk variety that is ...Ines,<br /><br />TOTALLY not the white musk variety that is being used in popular drugstore and "wholesome" image stores. I don't even know why they call it that, as it has such specific connotations.Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-22926994296904510402010-04-24T00:02:46.719+01:002010-04-24T00:02:46.719+01:00Minette,
hello there!!
LOL, yes, if someone does...Minette,<br /><br />hello there!!<br /><br />LOL, yes, if someone doesn't like that style Voyage won't shake them up and down and make them change their minds. <br />I admit I can't justify the purchase of a bottle: I have all the referenced quotes (OK, apart from Mousson) already! Ha!<br /><br />Elixir is by JCE all right. I very much like it, because even though it initially gives Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-61023970310574088652010-04-23T23:58:58.531+01:002010-04-23T23:58:58.531+01:00Ida,
hello darling! How are you?
Yup, there is c...Ida,<br /><br />hello darling! How are you?<br /><br />Yup, there is consistency. Somehow this is a mark of success. And I think they're capitalising on this. <br /><br />Hugs to you too!!! (I'm thinking of you)Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-37027147611714810202010-04-23T23:57:47.871+01:002010-04-23T23:57:47.871+01:00Cheiroso,
ah...someone after my own heart. Don...Cheiroso,<br /><br />ah...someone after my own heart. Don't I LOVE Declaration, a firm favourite in our house since its launch. <br />You mean Vetiver Tonka? It's a Hermessence, ie. boutique exclusive, but the big bottles are now available online at Hermes USA too. <br />If you like the rest of the Ellena frags, I bet you'll like Voyage too. <br /><br />Eau Sauvage is such a classic, Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-58525669257587926862010-04-23T23:55:10.586+01:002010-04-23T23:55:10.586+01:00Sue,
this is my own theory. I surpassed the obser...Sue,<br /><br />this is my own theory. I surpassed the observation that it's a recapitualtion of the body of work of Ellena already discussed online, into proposing it's a deliberate "passport" into the "signs" topography of Hermes en masse. <br /><br />Re: older Hermes. My favourites are Eau d'Hermes and Bel Ami. Of course Caleche and 24 Faubourg are also Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-58486711155629727652010-04-23T23:52:24.135+01:002010-04-23T23:52:24.135+01:00Thanks T! And welcome.Thanks T! And welcome.Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-54159373533970557932010-04-23T16:47:29.655+01:002010-04-23T16:47:29.655+01:00You know I loves me some musical equivalences. :)...You know I loves me some musical equivalences. :)<br /><br />Hmmm, I think you might be the fondest of this one yet. Interesting to see it garner a range of reviews...but not surprising, I think, in light of similar across-the-boards to other Ellena perfumes that echo the kind of orchestration you describe. Which you already said.<br /><br />Me, I like Rose Ikebana...but I wouldn't have ScentScelfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12264276265890227820noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-40215584548343805282010-04-23T09:39:51.778+01:002010-04-23T09:39:51.778+01:00what a lovely review- as ever- I tried it the othe...what a lovely review- as ever- I tried it the other day- I agree about the bottle by the way- and the juice is excellent, very much in the language of Hermes and Ellena. For me at the moment I think I prefer Terre but that might just be time- it's certainly a worthy addition to the family.Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08459305021803770946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-62594707696063837372010-04-23T09:18:22.552+01:002010-04-23T09:18:22.552+01:00I'm a bit scared of white musk but otherwise i...I'm a bit scared of white musk but otherwise it sounds great.I really enjoy the work of JCE and will definitely try this.Ineshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12119611878721554991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-91064625381740477422010-04-23T03:21:15.555+01:002010-04-23T03:21:15.555+01:00what jean claude has succeeded in doing at this po...what jean claude has succeeded in doing at this point in his career is boring me. again.<br /><br />loved your review, but this one left me yawning. though the bottle's designer deserves some props. it's cool.<br /><br />did he do elixir des merveilles? i love eau des merveilles on other folks (it fades like water on my skin), but elixir is the only "modern" hermes i truly love.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-17133444796355626682010-04-23T00:14:23.018+01:002010-04-23T00:14:23.018+01:00I'm in full agreement w/ your observation re:J...I'm in full agreement w/ your observation re:JCE's 'unification' of the Hermes line.<br /><br />Voyage will do really well, I believe, for many reasons-<br /><br />Its tenaciously transparent fraicheur, the signature spareness; it's consistent w/ his overall body of work.<br /><br />The packaging is a brilliant coup in itself !<br />Glorious to hold.<br /><br />Vernal hugs to chayaruchamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04889166567884475415noreply@blogger.com