tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post5629071663904341060..comments2024-03-27T09:09:56.489+00:00Comments on Perfume Shrine: The Truth About Patchouli Chypres or Floral Patchoulis: Not So Recent After AllPerfumeshrinehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-8038159028213895532020-07-08T19:07:36.051+01:002020-07-08T19:07:36.051+01:00Great post. Informative, opinionated and well-wri...Great post. Informative, opinionated and well-written! Also, it's about patchouli and who could resist? Would love to query you on D&G Velvet Patchouli and Narcisco's musks, btw.... Eyebrowznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-45434570894260914662015-10-27T00:51:42.980+00:002015-10-27T00:51:42.980+00:00I know they are made for reasons, usually to do wi...I know they are made for reasons, usually to do with sales (perfume or tv/movies), and yes using the same name gets the attention, but it nearly always seems that one then looses the original (I know you can go back & read the book), and seems to overlook that something is usually popular for what it is, rather than what it isnt (politics - here in Oz at least - is the exception to this, we Miss Heliotropenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-61232710472431093622015-10-26T08:40:49.987+00:002015-10-26T08:40:49.987+00:00This is an interesting point which needs some furt...This is an interesting point which needs some further discussion. Maybe I will do a separate post on it later on. <br />The thing is, changes aren't made just to make changes. There's no reason to change something unless there is a reason behind it. At least this is what happens with perfumery most of the time. <br /><br />Re: capitalization on a best-selling idea, well, this is how the Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-45009849769516847902015-10-26T01:19:31.323+00:002015-10-26T01:19:31.323+00:00I do love chypres - and following the interpretati...I do love chypres - and following the interpretations of them across years & fashion is fun. It is fascinating to see how each era reinterprets a set note or style in its own fashion. We do it with so many things, and then seem shocked when someone points out that the ones now, however classic & expensive (not just scent) are nothing like the original, overlooking that few of us would be Miss Heliotropenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-12657258328049206622015-10-22T11:19:59.265+01:002015-10-22T11:19:59.265+01:00Yeah, I should think that anyone who opposes Angel...Yeah, I should think that anyone who opposes Angel might not take kindly to the progeny. The trick is that both fragrances are somewhat vulgarized, somewhat trashy, the main difference being that Angel takes it all the way (and has the superior juxtaposing bottle presentation to clash with the smell) while Coco Mlle does not (and seems all timid and girl in its pinkish juice). <br />Coriandre andPerfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-53731221770491100242015-10-22T11:12:31.404+01:002015-10-22T11:12:31.404+01:00You do have a point. But times change and that'...You do have a point. But times change and that's not always a bad thing. We should embrace the best of what contemporary culture offers lest the worst prevails. So Narciso is all very well and a refined modernization; I'd take it over things like fruity syrupy stuff any day. <br />Of course there's always room for the true hardcore chypres in a genuine perfumephile's heart too! Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-50901352998168599312015-10-22T11:10:07.436+01:002015-10-22T11:10:07.436+01:00I absolutely LOVE it when people come onboard and ...I absolutely LOVE it when people come onboard and tell me that a comment of mine or a post has elucidated something for them. I consider it a job well done. Thanks Anne Marie for making my day. :-) And may I add you have excellent taste in fragrances. Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-91144113262801321692015-10-21T17:56:56.966+01:002015-10-21T17:56:56.966+01:00I can't say I'm a fan of the pink Chypre; ...I can't say I'm a fan of the pink Chypre; give me a hardcore true Chypre any day! This said, I do enjoy Narciso and I can understand its appeal, well done and pleasant. But if I could get my oakmoss laden animalic furs and floral chypres of yore I'd be more than settled. Standing ovation for Aromatics for being very very good even today.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13926791051490475441noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-50121740081167161172015-10-21T09:58:29.304+01:002015-10-21T09:58:29.304+01:00I love Femme and BV. Now I know why! I had not mad...I love Femme and BV. Now I know why! I had not made the connection. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01215941533619052461noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-50570845195455968172015-10-20T17:36:44.192+01:002015-10-20T17:36:44.192+01:00I can see your connecting Coco Mademoiselle with A...I can see your connecting Coco Mademoiselle with Angel there is a definite lineage there which probably also explains why Coco Mademoiselle is not a favorite of mine, considering Angel is a terror on me. Where as I do love Coriandre and most definetely love NR edt original. I can still remember the hubbub that scent created in the fragrance community and then the countless knock-offs, it was Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12095625947716520270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-13845558425096451302015-10-20T16:17:09.205+01:002015-10-20T16:17:09.205+01:00I was sure you'd like such a great fragrance a...I was sure you'd like such a great fragrance as BV! <br />Yes DB is similar. More touching on the suede shoulder rather than the plum one?Perfumeshrinehttp://perfumeshrine.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-12799174546393272632015-10-20T15:24:41.148+01:002015-10-20T15:24:41.148+01:00Excellent, thank you. I LOVE the original Bottega ...Excellent, thank you. I LOVE the original Bottega Veneta and completely get the cross reference. Daim Blond is then also a close relative of that line?<br />Thanks for so generously responding.<br />Portia xxPortiahttp://australianperfumejunkies.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-229374211496721632015-10-20T14:12:52.549+01:002015-10-20T14:12:52.549+01:00Hi there so nice to see you here again!
And thanks...Hi there so nice to see you here again!<br />And thanks for the welcoming back of the in depths. Plan to have a few more scheduled in the following weeks. <br /><br />You have a good question there. Femme is technically a fruity chypre and its formula takes over where Mitsouko left (though that one is less complex and more of a short formula). It does follow the stricter cluster of materials thatPerfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-55504456305975273902015-10-20T13:58:54.832+01:002015-10-20T13:58:54.832+01:00Can't say I really like Coco Mad myself either...Can't say I really like Coco Mad myself either; still its influence in market terms is ginormous so it deserves respect for that alone. <br /><br />The Narciso is a good case of refining to the point of only keeping the -almost Platonic- idea of something and subtracting the decoration. I think it's a wonderful perfume which does smell sorta perfumey (no one naturally smells that alluringPerfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-25729256665961836752015-10-20T13:10:24.750+01:002015-10-20T13:10:24.750+01:00YAY! I've missed your in depths.
It's so g...YAY! I've missed your in depths.<br />It's so good to have some of this explained. I have a question though, and it's been my thought for a while.<br />In my nose the first fruitchouli seems to be Femme by Rochas and that's where my head (with no knowledge other than speculation) pointed to. Where would you land it on the spectrum?<br />Portia xxPortiahttp://australianperfumejunkies.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-52848820529813889382015-10-20T11:18:19.772+01:002015-10-20T11:18:19.772+01:00Lovely post. I like or love just about every perfu...Lovely post. I like or love just about every perfume you mention except Coco Mad. I'm always amazed to see NR4H in the same discussion as Knowing and Paloma etc. I just don't get that they could be in the same family. I;d classify NR4H as 'um ... a musky floral thing ... ', not a chypre of any description. I guess it means that once the dark stuff is tripped out of patchouli I annemariecnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-76635560488867217372015-10-20T09:36:29.831+01:002015-10-20T09:36:29.831+01:00Thanks M, glad I caught your interest! :-)
Yup, i...Thanks M, glad I caught your interest! :-) <br />Yup, isn't it something that those classics still are kinda great even in their more watered down versions? They're more distinctive I guess now that vogues have changed. And of course the Roudnitska classics are creme de la creme anyway. Hope your summer proves less hot and dry than the previous one. Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-36490503168271928822015-10-20T09:34:36.956+01:002015-10-20T09:34:36.956+01:00Hi Jennifer, so good to see you and thanks for the...Hi Jennifer, so good to see you and thanks for the vote of confidence. I'm trying to keep up with the Perfume Shrine best I can I guess. This post was years in the making and an observation finally made me get over the edge and sit down and write it. <br /><br />I kinda believe the Coco Mademoiselle should be poised someplace between the fruitchouli and the woody oriental. Technically it'Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-13658979065538559982015-10-20T09:31:42.116+01:002015-10-20T09:31:42.116+01:00Not surprised by a local cultural prejudice on an ...Not surprised by a local cultural prejudice on an ingredient; it happens the world over (for instance I can't abide camphor because it reminds me of Vicks gel which they imposed on me as a kid, which is a strong cultural association, everyone knows the scent of Vicks Vapo-rub). <br /><br />And a resounding yes to your assessment of the popular synths for amber woods and cedar woods; they'Perfumeshrinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06222733129203280662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-58003271129947530262015-10-19T21:25:34.004+01:002015-10-19T21:25:34.004+01:00This was so interesting and as our summer is on th...This was so interesting and as our summer is on the way ...... I must get some Diorella . Its not like it used to be but ...saying that ... its still so good in the heat!lady jickyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09013352537776588166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-49289266502287850882015-10-19T16:51:34.978+01:002015-10-19T16:51:34.978+01:00So glad to see you writing again :-). So the much ...So glad to see you writing again :-). So the much maligned/loved "pink chypre" has a heritage. I feel though that Coco Mademoiselle should also get mentioned in the discussion of the "pink chypre" founding scents too of the early 2000s. Although, my money will always be on NR being the better of the two. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12095625947716520270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3792393342962796253.post-7272412708409519172015-10-19T14:14:03.952+01:002015-10-19T14:14:03.952+01:00These modern patchouli fragrances (floral or other...These modern patchouli fragrances (floral or otherwise) aren't selling so well in India. Patchouli is considered more of a medicine (in the Ayurvedic sense) than a perfume ingredient by Indians. It would be akin to us western folks wanting a fragrance that smells like cough drops or expectorant syrup.<br />I sampled Juliette Has a Gun's Not A Perfume (Ambroxan) & Molecule 01 by Bibi Maizoonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07383381158640915162noreply@blogger.com